With very few exceptions, offering an opinion on the appropriateness of the size of a jersey for a particular player is just that, an opinion. By this I mean there is very little in the way of historical ordering information available for jerseys as compared to the body of information that exists for bats. In the absence of team order sheets or photographs that reveal a size tag, there are a few aspects of this issue that can be considered helpful and that is what I would like to spend some time on today.

When I look at a jersey and am evaluating the appropriateness of the size, I try to use relevant references such as team yearbooks or period publications such as Street & Smith. I have found these very helpful as compared to biographical references that list a single height and weight for a player. The fact of the matter is our height and weight change over time. These year or period references gives me something to use a basis when I look at other period uniforms from the player in question or those players of approximately the same size. In short, I am always on the lookout for sizing information and this brings me to something I found rather interesting.

Issue 6 of the 1955 Rawlings Roundup has five pages devoted to sizing data. In this issue, Rawlings offers helpful hints on the sizing and ordering of uniforms. They also offer suggested size mixes for orders made for youth, high school, college, and professional teams. Rawlings based their numbers and recommendations on “more than fifty years’ experience in the making of quality athletic equipment…” The information provided by them for baseball uniforms was the most interesting for me:

“BASEBALL UNIFORMS: Baseball uniforms should be loose fitting. When ordering made-to-measure uniforms, specify one to two sizes larger than the actual chest and waist measurement. The suggested assortment of sizes for uniforms for professional teams in the table below are based on requirements of clubs in the Class A, B, C, and D, classifications. Major league teams, and those in AAA and AA, usually order made-to-measure uniforms.”

The high school, college, and professional charts provide data on various quantities and sizes that should be considered for those orders. In looking at a typical order for 18 uniforms you will see this suggested mix by size and quantity:

High School Baseball Jerseys

Size 36-1

Size 38-5

Size 40-7

Size 42-4

Size 44-1

College Baseball Jerseys

Size 38-2

Size 40-5

Size 42-6

Size 44-4

Size 46-1

Professional Baseball Jerseys

Size 38-1

Size 40-4

Size 42-8

Size 44-4

Size 46-1

I was curious how this suggested order by Rawlings compared to data I had on professional jerseys from 1955. Data for the fifty-six jerseys I have sizing information on from 1955 showed:

Size 38-0

Size 40-7

Size 42-24

Size 44-17

Size 46-7

Size 48-1

It appears Rawlings knew what they were talking about when the suggested teams go heavy on the size 42. Probably the best known of these “average size 42” players in 1955 was Willie Mays. This was probably the only thing you could link the word average to with respect to Mays and baseball.

Rawlings also offered the same type of information for caps in a quantity order of 18:

High School Baseball Caps

Size 6 3/4-1

Size 6 7/8-3

Size 7-5

Size 7 1/8-5

Size 7 1/4-3

Size 7 3/8-1

College Baseball Caps

Size 6 3/4-1

Size 6 7/8-2

Size 7-4

Size 7 1/8-5

Size 7 1/2-3

Size 7 3/8–2

Size 7 1/2-1

Professional Baseball Caps

Size 6 7/8-2

Size 7-5

Size 7 1/8-5

Size 7 1/4-3

Size 7 3/8-2

Size 7 1/2-1

Unlike the jerseys, there is more commonality across all three levels with respect the recommended cap sizes. If you look at all of this, relative to these sizes for 1955, Rawlings seems to suggest that anyone wearing a jersey larger than size 42 and cap larger than 7 1/8 is above the average.

As a means of comparison, in 1955 Ted Kluszewski was the biggest guy on the Cincinnati Reds roster and one of the largest men in the majors at 6’, 2, 236 lbs. Today, there are seven players on the Reds roster larger than “Big Klu” was in 1955. Kluszewski wore a size 46 jersey in 1955 and a size 46 jersey in today’s game hardly considered large.

One additional thing I would offer for collectors to consider when looking to determine the appropriateness of size is think about what imagery analysis has to offer. Unfortunately this won’t help in all cases, but if the player in question plays for team that features pinstripes on the jersey, count the pinstripes across the chest as a way assess size worn vs the tagged size you are looking at. In other words, if the jersey you are looking at is size 46 and it features twenty pinstripes from shoulder to shoulder, you should expect to find much of the same thing in the images from the same period/year in question you examine. You’d be surprised at how many folks don’t bother to do this, even when they claim a “photo match.”

Well, that about sizes things up for now. In the coming weeks we will look at the changes in cut and physical sizing of jerseys produced by a common manufacturer in a common size over a period of four decades. The size of the players isn’t the only thing that has changed and this is an equally important consideration.

As always, collect what you enjoy and enjoy what you collect.

Dave Grob

For questions or comments on this article, please feel free to drop me a line at DaveGrob1@aol.com

With very few exceptions, offering an opinion on the appropriateness of the size of a jersey for a particular player is just that, an opinion. By this I mean there is very little in the way of historical ordering information available for jerseys as compared to the body of information that exists for bats. In the absence of team order sheets or photographs that reveal a size tag, there are a few aspects of this issue that can be considered helpful and that is what I would like to spend some time on today.

When I look at a jersey and am evaluating the appropriateness of the size, I try to use relevant references such as team yearbooks or period publications such as Street & Smith. I have found these very helpful as compared to biographical references that list a single height and weight for a player. The fact of the matter is our height and weight change over time. These year or period references gives me something to use a basis when I look at other period uniforms from the player in question or those players of approximately the same size. In short, I am always on the lookout for sizing information and this brings me to something I found rather interesting.

Issue 6 of the 1955 Rawlings Roundup has five pages devoted to sizing data. In this issue, Rawlings offers helpful hints on the sizing and ordering of uniforms. They also offer suggested size mixes for orders made for youth, high school, college, and professional teams. Rawlings based their numbers and recommendations on “more than fifty years’ experience in the making of quality athletic equipment…” The information provided by them for baseball uniforms was the most interesting for me:

“BASEBALL UNIFORMS: Baseball uniforms should be loose fitting. When ordering made-to-measure uniforms, specify one to two sizes larger than the actual chest and waist measurement. The suggested assortment of sizes for uniforms for professional teams in the table below are based on requirements of clubs in the Class A, B, C, and D, classifications. Major league teams, and those in AAA and AA, usually order made-to-measure uniforms.”

The high school, college, and professional charts provide data on various quantities and sizes that should be considered for those orders. In looking at a typical order for 18 uniforms you will see this suggested mix by size and quantity:

High School Baseball Jerseys

Size 36-1

Size 38-5

Size 40-7

Size 42-4

Size 44-1

College Baseball Jerseys

Size 38-2

Size 40-5

Size 42-6

Size 44-4

Size 46-1

Professional Baseball Jerseys

Size 38-1

Size 40-4

Size 42-8

Size 44-4

Size 46-1

I was curious how this suggested order by Rawlings compared to data I had on professional jerseys from 1955. Data for the fifty-six jerseys I have sizing information on from 1955 showed:

Size 38-0

Size 40-7

Size 42-24

Size 44-17

Size 46-7

Size 48-1

It appears Rawlings knew what they were talking about when the suggested teams go heavy on the size 42. Probably the best known of these “average size 42” players in 1955 was Willie Mays. This was probably the only thing you could link the word average to with respect to Mays and baseball.

Rawlings also offered the same type of information for caps in a quantity order of 18:

High School Baseball Caps

Size 6 3/4-1

Size 6 7/8-3

Size 7-5

Size 7 1/8-5

Size 7 1/4-3

Size 7 3/8-1

College Baseball Caps

Size 6 3/4-1

Size 6 7/8-2

Size 7-4

Size 7 1/8-5

Size 7 1/2-3

Size 7 3/8–2

Size 7 1/2-1

Professional Baseball Caps

Size 6 7/8-2

Size 7-5

Size 7 1/8-5

Size 7 1/4-3

Size 7 3/8-2

Size 7 1/2-1

Unlike the jerseys, there is more commonality across all three levels with respect the recommended cap sizes. If you look at all of this, relative to these sizes for 1955, Rawlings seems to suggest that anyone wearing a jersey larger than size 42 and cap larger than 7 1/8 is above the average.

As a means of comparison, in 1955 Ted Kluszewski was the biggest guy on the Cincinnati Reds roster and one of the largest men in the majors at 6’, 2, 236 lbs. Today, there are seven players on the Reds roster larger than “Big Klu” was in 1955. Kluszewski wore a size 46 jersey in 1955 and a size 46 jersey in today’s game hardly considered large.

One additional thing I would offer for collectors to consider when looking to determine the appropriateness of size is think about what imagery analysis has to offer. Unfortunately this won’t help in all cases, but if the player in question plays for team that features pinstripes on the jersey, count the pinstripes across the chest as a way assess size worn vs the tagged size you are looking at. In other words, if the jersey you are looking at is size 46 and it features twenty pinstripes from shoulder to shoulder, you should expect to find much of the same thing in the images from the same period/year in question you examine. You’d be surprised at how many folks don’t bother to do this, even when they claim a “photo match.”

Well, that about sizes things up for now. In the coming weeks we will look at the changes in cut and physical sizing of jerseys produced by a common manufacturer in a common size over a period of four decades. The size of the players isn’t the only thing that has changed and this is an equally important consideration.

As always, collect what you enjoy and enjoy what you collect.

Dave Grob

For questions or comments on this article, please feel free to drop me a line at DaveGrob1@aol.com

Back when I first started collecting uniforms, about the only thing I did when checking the size of jersey was look in Total Baseball to see if the height and weight made sense for player in question. Over time I learned that size does matter as it relates to both the period of the jersey in a player’s career as well as the actual or true size of the jersey. In trying to determine the proper size of a jersey for a player in a given year, the best information would come from the actual team order sheets. This sort of documentation is extremely rare. The next best evidence would be a picture of a player from the season in question that shows the tagging in sufficient detail to allow the tagged size to be seen. In the absence of either of these two forms of evidence, what we end up doing is some form comparative analysis based on recorded sizes of both the player and uniforms offered or seen in the hobby over time.

I recently pick up a 1988 Paul O’Neill Cincinnati Reds home jersey. The jersey had many upsides including the original 1988 All Star Patch, solid use/wear, and it is the earliest Paul O’Neill jersey I have seen. In order to determine if the jersey was the proper size, I did a couple of things. I began the process by culling year specific data from Street & Smith Baseball Yearbooks. I prefer Street & Smith as a data point as opposed to static references such as Total Baseball, The Baseball Encyclopedia or on various on line references since it offers year by year snapshots. O’Neill played 17 seasons and like most of us, the size of what we wear is likely to have changed over time. I then placed various O’Neill uniforms I had information on into the mix to see what I could see. I also have Cincinnati Reds period yearbooks which show the same information. What is good about the team yearbooks is that also provide insights and data on the period before he joined the big club. Like most team year books, the 1984 and 1985 editions offer information on Paul O’Neill as a ring star in the Reds minor league system.

1984 Cincinnati Reds Yearbook: 6’, 4”; 190lbs

1985 Cincinnati Reds Yearbook: 6’, 4”; 200lbs

1986 Street & Smith Baseball Yearbook: 6’, 4”; 205lbs

1987 Street & Smith Baseball Yearbook: 6’, 4”; 205lbs

1988 Cincinnati Reds Rawlings Home Jersey Size 46, 1 ½” Extra Body Length, Tapered

1988 Street & Smith Baseball Yearbook: 6’, 4”; 205lbs

1989 Street & Smith Baseball Yearbook: 6’, 4”, 210lbs

1990 Street & Smith Baseball Yearbook: 6’, 4”, 215lbs

1991 Street & Smith Baseball Yearbook: 6’, 4”, 215lbs

1992 Street & Smith Baseball Yearbook: 6’, 4”, 215lbs

1993 Street & Smith Baseball Yearbook: 6’, 4”, 215lbs

1994 Street & Smith Baseball Yearbook: 6’, 4”, 215lbs

1995 NY Yankees Russell Home Jersey: Size 48, 1” Extra Sleeve Length

1995 Street & Smith Baseball Yearbook: 6’, 4”; 215lbs

1996 Street & Smith Baseball Yearbook: 6’, 4”, 215lbs

1997 Street & Smith Baseball Yearbook: 6’, 4”; 215lbs

1998 Street & Smith Baseball Yearbook: 6’, 4”; 215lbs

1999 Street & Smith Baseball Yearbook: 6’, 4”; 215lbs

2000 NY Yankees Road: Size 48, 1” Extra Body Length, Tapered

2000 Street & Smith Baseball Yearbook: 6’, 4”; 215lbs

2001 Street & Smith Baseball Yearbook: 6’, 4”, 215lbs

The data suggested that size 46 appeared proper in his early playing days and that there was a trend for customizations with respect to lengths and taper. In the recent article on the 1995 Barry Larkin road jersey, I made mention of taking the time to count pinstripes as an indication of width or relative chest size. I did this same thing in looking at later images of O’Neill with the Yankees and how these compared to other Yankees home jerseys in a size 48. In this case, I was more or less working backwards in that if a size 48 was correct with his playing height and weight being recorded at 6’, 4”; 215lbs, then a size 46 with similar customizations at a height and weight of 6’, 4”; 205lbs was appropriate.

Satisfied that a size 46 with extra length and tapered tagging made sense, I then ensured that these were also the true measurements of the actual jersey. I was not overly concerned that this shirt was a salesmen’s sample or period retail product since by 1988, O’Neill could have hardly been considered a star or period star player. Up to this point he had only appeared in 92 games over the course of three seasons with a career average of .259 by then. The tagging was also original to the jersey and not one manufactured after the fact and correct for Rawlings in 1988.

Since I had the Street & Smith Guides out anyway, I thought I would look at some other players of prominence from the same time period that I was looking at for Paul O’Neill.

Cal Ripken

1987: 6’, 4”; 218lbs

1988: 6’, 4”; 225lbs

1989: 6’, 4”; 225lbs

1990: 6’, 4”; 223lbs

1991: 6’, 4”; 223lbs

1992: 6’, 4”; 224lbs

1993: 6’, 4”; 220lbs

1994: 6’, 4”; 220lbs

1995: 6’, 4”; 220lbs

1996: 6’, 4”; 220lbs

1997: 6’, 4”; 220lbs

1998: 6’, 4”; 220lbs

1999: 6’, 4”; 220lbs

2000: 6’, 4”; 220lbs

2001: 6’, 4”; 220lbs

Barry Bonds

1987: 6’, 1”, 185lbs

1988: 6’, 1”, 185lbs

1989: 6’, 1”, 185lbs

1990: 6’, 1”, 185lbs

1991: 6’, 1”, 185lbs

1992: 6’, 1”, 190lbs

1993: 6’, 1”, 185lbs

1994: 6’, 1”, 185lbs

1995: 6’, 1”, 190lbs

1996: 6’, 1”, 190lbs

1997: 6’, 1”, 190lbs

1998: 6’, 1”, 190lbs

1999: 6’, 2”; 206lbs

2000: 6’, 2”; 210lbs

2001: 6’, 2”; 210lbs

For what its worth, on page 277 of “Game of Shadows,” the San Francisco Giants equipment manager reports Bond’s uniform size since coming to Giants had gone from a size 42 to a size 52, his shoes size from a 10 ½ to 13, and his cap size from 7 1/8 to 7 ¼.

Roger Clemens

1987: 6’, 4”; 215lbs

1988: 6’, 4”; 220lbs

1989: 6’, 4”; 220lbs

1990: 6’, 4”; 220lbs

1991: 6’, 4”; 220lbs

1992: 6’, 4”; 220lbs

1993: 6’, 4”; 220lbs

1994: 6’, 4”; 220lbs

1995: 6’, 4”; 220lbs

1996: 6’, 4”; 225lbs

1997: 6’, 4”; 225lbs

1998: 6’, 4”; 230lbs

1999: 6’, 4”; 230lbs

2000: 6’, 4”; 230lbs

2001: 6’, 4”; 238lbs

My point in all of this, if you have a player or players that you collect, consider building a similar sizing data base that is a combination of year specific and offered uniforms. Use it as a guide for the jerseys you consider buying and always measure the jersey after you get it to confirm what the tagging information shows.

As always, collect what you enjoy and enjoy what you collect.

Dave Grob

For questions or comments on this article, please feel free to drop me a line at DaveGrob1@aol.com.

Back when I first started collecting uniforms, about the only thing I did when checking the size of jersey was look in Total Baseball to see if the height and weight made sense for player in question. Over time I learned that size does matter as it relates to both the period of the jersey in a player’s career as well as the actual or true size of the jersey. In trying to determine the proper size of a jersey for a player in a given year, the best information would come from the actual team order sheets. This sort of documentation is extremely rare. The next best evidence would be a picture of a player from the season in question that shows the tagging in sufficient detail to allow the tagged size to be seen. In the absence of either of these two forms of evidence, what we end up doing is some form comparative analysis based on recorded sizes of both the player and uniforms offered or seen in the hobby over time.

I recently pick up a 1988 Paul O’Neill Cincinnati Reds home jersey. The jersey had many upsides including the original 1988 All Star Patch, solid use/wear, and it is the earliest Paul O’Neill jersey I have seen. In order to determine if the jersey was the proper size, I did a couple of things. I began the process by culling year specific data from Street & Smith Baseball Yearbooks. I prefer Street & Smith as a data point as opposed to static references such as Total Baseball, The Baseball Encyclopedia or on various on line references since it offers year by year snapshots. O’Neill played 17 seasons and like most of us, the size of what we wear is likely to have changed over time. I then placed various O’Neill uniforms I had information on into the mix to see what I could see. I also have Cincinnati Reds period yearbooks which show the same information. What is good about the team yearbooks is that also provide insights and data on the period before he joined the big club. Like most team year books, the 1984 and 1985 editions offer information on Paul O’Neill as a ring star in the Reds minor league system.

1984 Cincinnati Reds Yearbook: 6’, 4”; 190lbs

1985 Cincinnati Reds Yearbook: 6’, 4”; 200lbs

1986 Street & Smith Baseball Yearbook: 6’, 4”; 205lbs

1987 Street & Smith Baseball Yearbook: 6’, 4”; 205lbs

1988 Cincinnati Reds Rawlings Home Jersey Size 46, 1 ½” Extra Body Length, Tapered

1988 Street & Smith Baseball Yearbook: 6’, 4”; 205lbs

1989 Street & Smith Baseball Yearbook: 6’, 4”, 210lbs

1990 Street & Smith Baseball Yearbook: 6’, 4”, 215lbs

1991 Street & Smith Baseball Yearbook: 6’, 4”, 215lbs

1992 Street & Smith Baseball Yearbook: 6’, 4”, 215lbs

1993 Street & Smith Baseball Yearbook: 6’, 4”, 215lbs

1994 Street & Smith Baseball Yearbook: 6’, 4”, 215lbs

1995 NY Yankees Russell Home Jersey: Size 48, 1” Extra Sleeve Length

1995 Street & Smith Baseball Yearbook: 6’, 4”; 215lbs

1996 Street & Smith Baseball Yearbook: 6’, 4”, 215lbs

1997 Street & Smith Baseball Yearbook: 6’, 4”; 215lbs

1998 Street & Smith Baseball Yearbook: 6’, 4”; 215lbs

1999 Street & Smith Baseball Yearbook: 6’, 4”; 215lbs

2000 NY Yankees Road: Size 48, 1” Extra Body Length, Tapered

2000 Street & Smith Baseball Yearbook: 6’, 4”; 215lbs

2001 Street & Smith Baseball Yearbook: 6’, 4”, 215lbs

The data suggested that size 46 appeared proper in his early playing days and that there was a trend for customizations with respect to lengths and taper. In the recent article on the 1995 Barry Larkin road jersey, I made mention of taking the time to count pinstripes as an indication of width or relative chest size. I did this same thing in looking at later images of O’Neill with the Yankees and how these compared to other Yankees home jerseys in a size 48. In this case, I was more or less working backwards in that if a size 48 was correct with his playing height and weight being recorded at 6’, 4”; 215lbs, then a size 46 with similar customizations at a height and weight of 6’, 4”; 205lbs was appropriate.

Satisfied that a size 46 with extra length and tapered tagging made sense, I then ensured that these were also the true measurements of the actual jersey. I was not overly concerned that this shirt was a salesmen’s sample or period retail product since by 1988, O’Neill could have hardly been considered a star or period star player. Up to this point he had only appeared in 92 games over the course of three seasons with a career average of .259 by then. The tagging was also original to the jersey and not one manufactured after the fact and correct for Rawlings in 1988.

Since I had the Street & Smith Guides out anyway, I thought I would look at some other players of prominence from the same time period that I was looking at for Paul O’Neill.

Cal Ripken

1987: 6’, 4”; 218lbs

1988: 6’, 4”; 225lbs

1989: 6’, 4”; 225lbs

1990: 6’, 4”; 223lbs

1991: 6’, 4”; 223lbs

1992: 6’, 4”; 224lbs

1993: 6’, 4”; 220lbs

1994: 6’, 4”; 220lbs

1995: 6’, 4”; 220lbs

1996: 6’, 4”; 220lbs

1997: 6’, 4”; 220lbs

1998: 6’, 4”; 220lbs

1999: 6’, 4”; 220lbs

2000: 6’, 4”; 220lbs

2001: 6’, 4”; 220lbs

Barry Bonds

1987: 6’, 1”, 185lbs

1988: 6’, 1”, 185lbs

1989: 6’, 1”, 185lbs

1990: 6’, 1”, 185lbs

1991: 6’, 1”, 185lbs

1992: 6’, 1”, 190lbs

1993: 6’, 1”, 185lbs

1994: 6’, 1”, 185lbs

1995: 6’, 1”, 190lbs

1996: 6’, 1”, 190lbs

1997: 6’, 1”, 190lbs

1998: 6’, 1”, 190lbs

1999: 6’, 2”; 206lbs

2000: 6’, 2”; 210lbs

2001: 6’, 2”; 210lbs

For what its worth, on page 277 of “Game of Shadows,” the San Francisco Giants equipment manager reports Bond’s uniform size since coming to Giants had gone from a size 42 to a size 52, his shoes size from a 10 ½ to 13, and his cap size from 7 1/8 to 7 ¼.

Roger Clemens

1987: 6’, 4”; 215lbs

1988: 6’, 4”; 220lbs

1989: 6’, 4”; 220lbs

1990: 6’, 4”; 220lbs

1991: 6’, 4”; 220lbs

1992: 6’, 4”; 220lbs

1993: 6’, 4”; 220lbs

1994: 6’, 4”; 220lbs

1995: 6’, 4”; 220lbs

1996: 6’, 4”; 225lbs

1997: 6’, 4”; 225lbs

1998: 6’, 4”; 230lbs

1999: 6’, 4”; 230lbs

2000: 6’, 4”; 230lbs

2001: 6’, 4”; 238lbs

My point in all of this, if you have a player or players that you collect, consider building a similar sizing data base that is a combination of year specific and offered uniforms. Use it as a guide for the jerseys you consider buying and always measure the jersey after you get it to confirm what the tagging information shows.

As always, collect what you enjoy and enjoy what you collect.

Dave Grob

For questions or comments on this article, please feel free to drop me a line at DaveGrob1@aol.com.